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wtan001 · #1 10-03-2007, 10:46 AM

All right, Here it is, this is my first experience in promoting PAW, I like the website a lot, I thought would be a kewl brand to work with. I started Email promoting to my older partners to send out to them with 50 dollar amazon card after I got the track, I got 500 dollars last month probably from Partypoker, and P.S. I do have an affiliate account with Partypartners, and I do received confirm from them that the track 2843684 which you assigned to me the commission has been sent out already, and a couple players from fultiltpoker and at least five players to play the casino for last month, those commission could add up to at lease 1500 dollars. Yes, I don't want to argue with your manager, and etc, Who gives a damn about 1500 dollars, Just want to let you know, this will be the only 1500 dollars you earn from me and no more else. I wish other webmaster would have a great time, in here, I will send some emails to my old affiliate manager of all those brand and I will post the information out how much many they has been token which not belongs to them.

Jeremy · #2 10-03-2007, 11:04 AM

I can barely understand what you are saying. Can you please PM me your PAW Network login and I will look into it.

If you are having doubts about tracking or players showing up, all you have to do is send an email to our support department and we will promptly send you a screen shot of your statistics. If there are players on the tracker you are speaking of, they will be in your account.

Furthermore, please read our terms and conditions. Giving $50 gift cards in an effort to get players to sign-up is strictly prohibited and is bad for the networks overall player value. Especially on a room like Party where the requirements are lower.

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2.11 "Sign Up Bonus Incentives" are special offers to Players that give them extra cash or giveaways when they open their Account or make a real money deposit at any of the PAW Network rooms. Incentive Marketing or giving incentives in the form of cash, free bankrolls, or special gifts is strictly prohibited on the PAW Network. PAW reserves the right to withhold any CPA payments to affiliates who are promoting via incentive marketing. In rare cases we will allow incentive marketing, however any such marketing must be pre-approved.

mfosouto · #3 10-03-2007, 01:06 PM

Even if you had tracking problems, you could have all your funds blocked from using incentive marketing.

And check your links, because by your writing skills and scarce number of posts I would assume it could be your error, not PAW's.

wtan001 · #4 10-03-2007, 01:21 PM

the important thing is how you define incenstive promoting, I paid out the money to my partners. They promote them from the website, The PAW just left me with the email. your players are low value, since I started to promote the brand 10 days later. I don't know how could they tell you have a high or low player value based on 10 days.
The reason why I post this is, I have contacted my partypartners manager, they told me the track of partypoker PAW gave me, they has been credit their account with the commission. because I do have some connection with the Party brand. The reason why I turn to PAW is because PAW gives a CPA or Party 125 dollars instead 100.
Ok, here is it, for what reason PAW received the commission. and not credit to my account meanwhile not returning the commission back to Party brand.

Jeremy · #5 10-03-2007, 01:32 PM

So you tried pulling a CPA scam on us by $50 giving gift cards away and having your players make min. deposit, earn 5 FPP's and then cash out.

Now you are questioning why you can't get paid? I wasn't directly involved in this investigation, but if you are not getting paid, it is because we identified the low player value by speaking with Party, as they are the only ones that can tell us this.

Furthermore I would be surprised if Party is disclosing all of the information regarding the PAW affiliate account and what money is coming in or out. The tracker is assigned to you directly from us, not Party. I have a hard time believing anyone could just email Party and get details on trackers that are in our account.

Looking at your marketing tactics, you are know being restricted to only promoting revenue share plans through the PAW Network. Have a good day.

wtan001 · #6 10-03-2007, 03:08 PM

Jeremy thanks for your help, I am pretty sure about one thing at least, the players I introduced players and the requirements after I have contacted my partners, usually around 20 PP points, I mean it's only 10 days, how could you expect players are playing for more than 100 PP in 10 days? Thanks

wtan001 · #7 10-03-2007, 03:12 PM

2nd the Tracker you gave me is in party, I am pretty sure about that. Otherwise I cant track all those information, 3rd my partypartners which signed up on party official site has been paid out on 2nd this month. Like I said I don't want to argue with this problem, Just want to let you know dealing biz hornestly, If you could meanwhile forward one of the email, which party said my affiliate has low value, you could absolutely not pay this amount of money to me. and I will continue working with your brand. because I never have problems with any of the brand stating low value, even the casino I paid out amazon card for at least deposit 50 and wagering 4000 dollars at least.

Jeremy · #8 10-03-2007, 04:12 PM

Incentive marketing is against our terms and conditions, so this is really non negotiable. I am about to get on a plane, but will discuss your situation with my team tomorrow.

wtan001 · #9 10-03-2007, 08:08 PM

This dude is even more funny, you said my writing skills and scarce number of posts is pretty much my fault.

Even if you had tracking problems, you could have all your funds blocked from using incentive marketing.

And check your links, because by your writing skills and scarce number of posts I would assume it could be your error, not PAW's.
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wtan001 · #10 10-03-2007, 08:33 PM

It's really depends on how you define it, you could say PAW is incenstive itself, I didn't pay out the amazon card to directly to the players, I paid to my partners, and let them promote for me. I am doing the same thing as you guys are doing. But the thing I am doing better is I prepaid my partners. Look, if the brands are not going to pay to your account. you will never ever credit your subaffiliate with the commission. But I don't, I paid out anyway. I don't know why you guys put a incentive marketing on me, since I am just doing subaffiliates. Meanwhile, you could also request partypoker and casino - which I promote last month is 32vegas and eurogrand. You could aslo get a statistics report of the traffic, if its a banner promotion, you could absolutely tell from the the click conversion rate. I at least trust my partners they are NOT doing incenstive. It seems you guys define as incenstive based on how many players people has been introduced. Not how many traffic I have sent to you together with how many players has been introduced. Because this is my 1st month promoting your brands, I might be pretty critical about everything.