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Old 10-04-2007, 12:11 AM
Mitchell Mitchell is offline
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Hi,

Before i go through your points, and before you raise anymore, please ensure that you understand the reasons why your account has been flagged.

As you know, we receive reports from the rooms each month, and work with them continuously to ensure that the players sent through are legitimate.

We've had 3 players that were signed up at Full Tilt through your links that had cashed out as soon as the points requirement was met. What's more, is that these players happened to be serial related, which means created on the same computer.

We can empathize with your disappointment on this matter but it's unfortunate that your players have resorted to this to get the CPA payout (and i'm not even touching on the incentive marketing techniques that you're using).

Because of our strict measures against low-value players or fraud, we have to ensure that this does not happen again, and we work with the rooms to protect others on the network.

As for payments from the other rooms:

We notify these rooms that we have stopped payments and they will either with-hold the amount, or take it off the payments for the month after.

And now onto the incentive marketing, or what you refer to as Sub-affiliate. Please understand that both are different.

Incentive marketing is providing your PLAYERS with incentives (such as the cash gift card that you mentioned), to play via your tracker links, thus bringing in your CPA.

Sub-affiliates refers to an affiliate that joins a program based on your recommendation, and is in your second tier. Based on what you have told us, you have been providing incentive marketing instead of sub-affiliating.

Based on your personal affiliation with the poker-rooms, you should be aware of the differences, but if you were still ever unsure, you could have dropped an email to ask us.

It's unfortunate that this had to be aired out here, but we take these measures to protect affiliates that have promoted and referred high value players.
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:08 AM
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Ok, like you said, only fulltiltpoker might to send you emails to complain about it, so which means all my commission will be canceled? All right Like you said, you will refund all the money to the poker room. I wil have no problem with that. I need every email confirmation from all the poker rooms that you have refunded, and i requested for a email forward to my email address. including Partypoker which the commssion has been paid out to you already. I will be appreciated. And one more thing, let's also talk about the full tilt one, like you said, do you know 100 FTP points which means making the profit by at least 25 dollars from rake hands. They made profit, you got understand and I am 100% sure you guys also make profits at least from Me.
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Incentive marketing is providing your PLAYERS with incentives (such as the cash gift card that you mentioned), to play via your tracker links, thus bringing in your CPA.
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as you stated in this I said over and over again, I didnt pay the money to players. I paid out to my partners IN UK and JAPAN where they set up the banner on their website!!!! because I have NO way to paid out the money to my partners with moneybookers, THose Transaction can't be processed in THE UNITED STATES.
Its not my problem in writing that clear!!! I stated IN MY LAST POST ALREADY! AND YOU DO HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS, BECAUSE ALL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS FULL TILT POKER? WHY NOT OTHERS ? WHY NOT PARTY POKER WHY NOT 32 VEGAS WHY NOT EUROGRAND? I SEND DIFFERENT BRANDS TRACKERS TO DIFFERENT PARTNERS, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN WAY OF PROMOTING IT.
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AND DO THE CALUATION YOURSELF, YOU MADE PROFIT FROM ME! POKER ROOMS MAKE PROFIT FROM ME! SO RIGHT NOW YOU ARE STILL BLAME ME IT'S MY FAULT? I AM THE ONE WHO REALLY PAID OUT THE MONEY.!
I COULD RIGHT NOW SEND OUT THE EMAIL FROM PARTYPARTNERS FORWARD TO YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS -- MY AFFILIATE MANAGER. HE SAID THE TRACKER PAID OUT ALREADY WITH THE CPA OF 150 DOLLARS, WHAT ELSE YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT I COULD TELL YOU EVERYTHING

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Old 10-04-2007, 03:55 AM
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wtan,

I would like to point out two points in our terms and conditions that affiliates need to be aware of when joining the PAW network:

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2.3 "Revenue Earned" is the amount due and payable to you, based solely on our system's data. All revenue earned by the affiliate shall be deemed as "estimated earnings" until the PAW month end reconciliation, verification and fraud checks of all accounts. Although estimated earning often times match true earnings, the affiliates monthly payment will be based upon the month end system generated statements.
We are not able to guarantee the stats that we receive from the rooms, nor can we guarantee 100% accuracy for each reporting day. This is why the earnings are not final until the statements have been issued.

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2.8.3 www.PokerAffiliateWorld.com and the PAW Network will work with the individual poker and casino sites to determine if affiliate fraud is taking place. In the event that we together determine fraud is taking place, the PAW Network reserves the right to suspend payments on ALL earnings due to the affiliate.
We do not earn any profit when affiliates send through fraudulent traffic. We go through pain-staking measures each month ensuring as much as we can, that the traffic that is sent is legitimate or of decent value.

If we wanted to make a profit off fraudulent traffic, we wouldn't even have these measures in place. It helps nobody if we allow for something like this to happen. It tarnishes our reputation, our deals may get dropped, and thus affecting affiliates.

And once we have received a response from a room that a tracker ID has been flagged, we seek a satisfactory explanation (from the affiliate) on why this may have occurred, failing which, the affiliate can be banned from the network.

PAW does not want fraudulent affiliates on our network, as it's a waste of our monthly resources. A lot of time is used to check each room, and each tracker, making sure that no one is jumping on for a free ride whilst other affiliates are doing the right thing. Even if that means that we won't get the cut that this sort of traffic might bring through.

I do not wish to keep this going back and forward because we are doing the right thing for the whole network. It doesn't help that you completely avoided explaining that the players had cashed out as soon as they reached the CPA minimum requirements or why they had originated from the same PC.

In future, prior to "pre-paying" your partners, perhaps you may wish to do some sort of validity check on their credentials.

It seems that one of them might have been the cause of all this duress, all to get the payments that you had promised them. and thus, justifying our reasons for not allowing incentive marketing on the network.

Or you could have even taken advantage of our sub-affiliate system, where the responsibility for that traffic might not have been on the referring sites instead. Or even perhaps enquired with us if this form of promoting was allowed on the network.
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