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[akhil_jks]

Originally Posted by fandv

I'm sure there are some other things that will be posted in this thread that I will really want to respond to, but this will be the last time I post in this thread. I lost the whole day to this mess yesterday and I can’t afford to lose more time and have more aggravation. The fact of the matter is that I feel the way I feel about what we got. I feel like we did the right thing in the end, over and above what the average person would. I would say the average person, or possibly most people would have never paid the final invoice. I feel further vindication since all but A lonely one member in these forums agrees with us. (When I say agrees with us I mean you may or may not think we are partially to blame, but in the end you think we shouldn't have to pay the additional 15k at this point) I also have 12 translators in this office who tell me that the work we received is substandard and I have 3 members from this forum telling me the exact same thing...........................

What a big lie Mike! Anyone who has seen my emails, please refer to this email:

So my dear friends, I hope you are checking the dates. This email Scott sent me has the date 13th of August, 2007. He or Mike didn't sent ANY file to be amended untill 28th of August. On 28th, he sent me and email which is quite long, let me post a few things here(but if anyone wants to see all emails, I'll be more than happy to forward them all to you):

Subject: Translation errors
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:50:09 -0700
From: "Scott" <> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "akhilesh sharma" <>
CC: "Mike" <>
Hello Akhilesh,
Attached are some files that that needed to be redone entirely as well as over all issues that were pervasive throughout all files.
Here is what a few of our translators said of the work (in blue)
“Part of the work was much better than the others. I also think that the translator should have done some research about Poker before translating to avoid most of the errors related to terminology. There were verb errors throughout most files”
......
....(in these dashes, he has written about translation errors in general, if you wanna see, please let me know and I'll paste whole email here)
....
........
We did not anticipate having to pay for the work twice, once to you and again to our new employees to proof read the docs and ready them for publication. As Mike and I have stated earlier, this project did not goes as expected. We would like to see a discount on the outstanding $41,000 invoice for our troubles on this project.
I look forward to your reply.

Scott

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Now if you have seen the email, all of you can easily decide how many false things he has been telling. He sent EXAMPLES, I repeat- EXAMPLES OF ERRORS- not the files to be amended. Mike said "This was one of a few emails that we sent him with attached examples of problems." also, he did sent me the emails before with EXAMPLES. So anyone here please tell me- what we have to do with the examples? Did Mike told me even once that correct the example files? If he did- I challange him to post that email here! Blatant lies...they only sent us those files to let us know what problems are there in the files.


Mike said "..and I have 3 members from this forum telling me the exact same thing. "....really Mike? Then you should also mention all those people to which you sent the files and they said they are quite Ok! I talked to one of my clients yesterday on msn (he's also the member of this forum). You had sent him swedish files to check , right? He told me that the files are quite ok, he also said the languages I have translated for him were always fine. And when I told him to tell you the same thing, he said he will talk to you in Barcelona. Dear "ma...", that's why I insisted you to post here your views, as you can see, this man is misleading all the members here by telling them lots of lies.


Mike said "I don’t know why Akhilesh maintains that we didn’t send examples, but we did. ".....dear members, did I ever said that Mike hasnt sent me the examples? I had shouted a lot of times that he didnt sent any FILES to be amended, what we need to do with the examples in which the PSO has already highlighted the so called errors ?


Now the biggest lie, as Mike said "It should also be noted that we sent a second round of examples on August 28th with even more problems, this time in Russian. Again, we got a reply of I’m sorry there is nothing I can do now."----dear members, does this really makes any sense at all? You have seen a lot of my emails to Scott telling him again and again to send files to be amended- BEFORE 28TH OF AUGUST. This is where Mike gets fully exposed- he didnt sent any files to be amended and sent examples of errors 2-3 times, you members tell me - do we need to amend/proof read the files or only those "examples" which he sent? And if Mike wants to say the examples- I again challange you mike, copy the email here where you have told us to proof read those examples and send you back! Come on man!

[akhil_jks]

Originally Posted by 7Devil7

How can the guy say that what PSO did is "unprofessional"? What you did is 20x more unprofessional.

Really? Check out what I have posted on page 8. You will come to know who is misleading this forum members.

[akhil_jks]

[quote=offyourface;67137]I would imagine it's a tough decision for pso to invest so much money in proofing an order, then being asked to send the work back for corrections to a company that has already delivered subpar work, then spend the money yet again to reproof the work.....


What are you saying man? Did I told Mike even once that I want more money from him to proof read the work again? If I did, tell him to post that email here, you are also accompanying him in his false statements?


I have noticed that a lot of members here have no answers at all when I ask them a simple question- why didnt pso sent even a single file to be amended when I told them again n again about it. Why they said that the rest of files are quite ok and they will let me know if there are any files to be amended. They sent us only examples with the errors highlighted and didnt told us to re-do those examples- I have said that before!


Also can you answer another simple question? If he wanted those examples to be amended and told us to do it(which he didn't)- we didnt had ANY problems to correct those 4-5 files or less than 6-7 files before! Do you guys think I;m that stupid who didnt proof read even 4-5 files and save my money!!! Unrealistic! Do you want me to post all those files here?


Can anyone answer this?

[NewPokerGirl]

God this all took forever to read....It doesn't look like your going to get your money and Michael said he isn't going to post anymore so at this point your just arguing with members here which also isn't going to get your money...you might as well move the fight to another forum or keep trying to work it out with PSO.

.....had to add this.....

Why risk having you name plastered all over the Internet in a negative way over a measly $15,000?

...god I envy you!....i can translate good english into bad english if you ever go after the "uneducated online poker player" market...lol j/k

[akhil_jks]

Originally Posted by NewPokerGirl

God this all took forever to read....It doesn't look like your going to get your money and Michael said he isn't going to post anymore so at this point your just arguing with members here which also isn't going to get your money...you might as well move the fight to another forum or keep trying to work it out with PSO.

.....had to add this.....



...god I envy you!....i can translate good english into bad english if you ever go after the "uneducated online poker player" market...lol j/k

Hi NewPokerGirl,


I know very well that Mike isnt going to send any money now- this is what I knew from very start and that's why I decided to expose this guy here in front of all members. Whether he has the friends here or neutral people- all will agree whether in their heart or openly that what he did is unprofessional. He had no other way out other than stopping posting here. As PPP rightly said, he has no legs to stand on...infact, a liar has no legs


I proudly say that I have many n many clients in this poker industry(more than 26) and all are happy with our work and send work on a regular basis. If anyone wants to see our references, I'll be more than happy to mention ALL of them here. If you are honest, you dont need to fear anyone! Instead, you should expose the person who has screwed you And I succeeded in this.


He screwed me of 15000$...something which means a lot keeping in mind the hard work we did. But now everyone knows what he has done- he is gonna lose a lot of reputation and business- this is 100% sure. And this should happen to any such person who cheats his vendors.


People should think 100 times before doing business with such person. If he has done it to us, he can do this to anyone- anytime! I posted the incident here only because I was 100% honest. If there was even 0.1% wrong thing on my part, I would have preferred to shut my mouth. But again, if i'm truthful, i dont need to fear anyone. People in this industry know about our quality and ethics.

[Graham]

I just spent the last while reading through this mess and have come to the following conclusion:

Akhilesh, this problem would never have happened if you simply provided them with the "quality" work that you stated on the first attempt. They should not have to proofread all of your work. I have seen your advertising spam stating that you have worked for Party Poker and Pokerlistings which implies that you are going to provide high quality work. If Mike is correct in stating that he has paid you 89% of the invoice, what is the issue? You provided crap, and got over paid. You haven't once denied that the stuff you provided was not of the top quality that you initially promised. Suck it up, learn from your mistakes and move on.

I have been in similar situations myself and know how frustrating this would have been for PSO. I have dealt with web designers that, like you, state they can do the highest quality work. Once I realize they overlook such simple tasks and the quality is not what is initially promised, I quickly cancel the projects and consider my initial deposit a loss. Why should I give them 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances to do what they promised they would do the first time. I don't pay these people to waste my time. I don't even expect to get my initial deposit back, even though I probably should because they did not provide the services stated in the initial deal.

Considering you are in the business of translation, you would think it would be important to have some concept of the english language yourself. That was my first clue to stay away from your work when I saw your advertisements. This is probably where Mike made his big mistake.

Regardless, you both made mistakes and I think you need to learn from them and get on with your lives. Airing your dirty laundry on this forum really isn't going to help you in any way. What do you really expect to get out of posting on this site? Do you really think people are gonna think twice if PSO wants to purchase advertising space on one of our sites, or not offer him a link exchange? Or maybe the affiliate managers on here will block their accounts that bring them tons of revenue every month. Good luck with that!

If you want to take them to court, then by all means you can try it that way, but a judge will probably not take your side on this one.

Anyway, you wanted people's feedback on this, so here is mine. Oh, and I don't really care about your response, as I have already made up my mind on this one.

[offyourface]

[quote=akhil_jks;67236]

Originally Posted by offyourface

I would imagine it's a tough decision for pso to invest so much money in proofing an order, then being asked to send the work back for corrections to a company that has already delivered subpar work, then spend the money yet again to reproof the work.....


What are you saying man? Did I told Mike even once that I want more money from him to proof read the work again? If I did, tell him to post that email here, you are also accompanying him in his false statements?


I have noticed that a lot of members here have no answers at all when I ask them a simple question- why didnt pso sent even a single file to be amended when I told them again n again about it. Why they said that the rest of files are quite ok and they will let me know if there are any files to be amended. They sent us only examples with the errors highlighted and didnt told us to re-do those examples- I have said that before!


Also can you answer another simple question? If he wanted those examples to be amended and told us to do it(which he didn't)- we didnt had ANY problems to correct those 4-5 files or less than 6-7 files before! Do you guys think I;m that stupid who didnt proof read even 4-5 files and save my money!!! Unrealistic! Do you want me to post all those files here?


Can anyone answer this?

You misunderstood me my friend. But I am not going to waste the time breaking it down for you because that really doesn't put any coin in my pocket now does it. I don't really understand what you hope to accomplish here by continuing to post. I for one am done with this soap opera and I would recommend you be done with it too. Work on druming up some new business and move forward. You can't accomplish anything here now and your beginning to act a little immature which has the potential to reflect badly on your business and may hurt you with future prospects. Again, good luck.

[akhil_jks]

[quote=offyourface;67241]

Originally Posted by akhil_jks

You misunderstood me my friend. But I am not going to waste the time breaking it down for you because that really doesn't put any coin in my pocket now does it. I don't really understand what you hope to accomplish here by continuing to post. I for one am done with this soap opera and I would recommend you be done with it too. Work on druming up some new business and move forward. You can't accomplish anything here now and your beginning to act a little immature which has the potential to reflect badly on your business and may hurt you with future prospects. Again, good luck.

I'm not stretching it my brother. It's almost over now and I have done what I wanted to- to tell you all the truth. Was just replying to the comments that were posted last night/early today.


I'm again thankful to all of you for your support.

[akhil_jks]

Originally Posted by Graham

I just spent the last while reading through this mess and have come to the following conclusion:

Akhilesh, this problem would never have happened if you simply provided them with the "quality" work that you stated on the first attempt. They should not have to proofread all of your work. I have seen your advertising spam stating that you have worked for Party Poker and Pokerlistings which implies that you are going to provide high quality work. If Mike is correct in stating that he has paid you 89% of the invoice, what is the issue? You provided crap, and got over paid. You haven't once denied that the stuff you provided was not of the top quality that you initially promised. Suck it up, learn from your mistakes and move on.

I have been in similar situations myself and know how frustrating this would have been for PSO. I have dealt with web designers that, like you, state they can do the highest quality work. Once I realize they overlook such simple tasks and the quality is not what is initially promised, I quickly cancel the projects and consider my initial deposit a loss. Why should I give them 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances to do what they promised they would do the first time. I don't pay these people to waste my time. I don't even expect to get my initial deposit back, even though I probably should because they did not provide the services stated in the initial deal.

Considering you are in the business of translation, you would think it would be important to have some concept of the english language yourself. That was my first clue to stay away from your work when I saw your advertisements. This is probably where Mike made his big mistake.

Regardless, you both made mistakes and I think you need to learn from them and get on with your lives. Airing your dirty laundry on this forum really isn't going to help you in any way. What do you really expect to get out of posting on this site? Do you really think people are gonna think twice if PSO wants to purchase advertising space on one of our sites, or not offer him a link exchange? Or maybe the affiliate managers on here will block their accounts that bring them tons of revenue every month. Good luck with that!

If you want to take them to court, then by all means you can try it that way, but a judge will probably not take your side on this one.

Anyway, you wanted people's feedback on this, so here is mine. Oh, and I don't really care about your response, as I have already made up my mind on this one.

I also dont care about your response brother. What you and some others calling "crap" has been judged as OK by many other clients which are even Mike's friends. So I really do not need to explain it again n again, I have done it in this post- cleared every thing up. I was screwed of my money and time and that's why I decided to post here- on the advise of some of my esteemed clients. Also, someone who is very important in this forum.


Thanks!

[akhil_jks]

Originally Posted by Graham

I just spent the last while reading through this mess and have come to the following conclusion:

Akhilesh, this problem would never have happened if you simply provided them with the "quality" work that you stated on the first attempt. They should not have to proofread all of your work. I have seen your advertising spam stating that you have worked for Party Poker and Pokerlistings which implies that you are going to provide high quality work....

Oh..one more thing my dear friend. You mentioned Pokerlistings who is sending us work frequently...so may be you wanna ask the pokerlistings people about us, about the "crap" quality you are talking about! Let me know if you wanna receive the contact details of pokerlistings people who are in contact with me regarding projects.


Next time, before calling any work "crap", do ask others what they think of the work quality! Many thanks once again for your thoughts.

Just wanted to add, Yes, our work is of good quality everytime, for every client. If you have any doubts, I can provide you a lot of my client details...you may ask anyone of them, no problems to me at all!