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Old 02-26-2007, 12:01 PM
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Re: VIP SPORTS

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We have enjoyed the opportunity to serve you over the years. Regrettably, we will no longer be able to accept deposits from Canadian players effective immediately. You will maintain access to your account until April 1, 2007. If you currently have a balance you may continue to use any funds in your account until that date, at which point any remaining funds will be refunded to you and your account will be closed.


Since when did Canada get affected???
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:34 PM
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"As you are probably aware, recent changes in the e-commerce landscape have caused many online companies, like our merchants, to adapt their offerings in this fast paced industry."

http://forum2.vipprofits.com//ultima...=000085#000000
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:42 PM
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????

Im still not sure. Does it mean they are using the same payment processors for Canada & USA and they have issues which is stopping them accept Canadian business?
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:11 PM
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Since when did Canada get affected???
It's always been illegal to bet on sports over the internet in Canada.

Canadian Criminal Code:

Gaming and Betting


Keeping gaming or betting house
201. (1) Every one who keeps a common gaming house or common betting house is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

Person found in or owner permitting use
(2) Every one who
(a) is found, without lawful excuse, in a common gaming house or common betting house, or

(b) as owner, landlord, lessor, tenant, occupier or agent, knowingly permits a place to be let or used for the purposes of a common gaming house or common betting house,

is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 185.

Betting, pool-selling, book-making, etc.
202. (1) Every one commits an offence who

(a) uses or knowingly allows a place under his control to be used for the purpose of recording or registering bets or selling a pool;

(b) imports, makes, buys, sells, rents, leases, hires or keeps, exhibits, employs or knowingly allows to be kept, exhibited or employed in any place under his control any device or apparatus for the purpose of recording or registering bets or selling a pool, or any machine or device for gambling or betting;

(c) has under his control any money or other property relating to a transaction that is an offence under this section;

(d) records or registers bets or sells a pool;

(e) engages in book-making or pool-selling, or in the business or occupation of betting, or makes any agreement for the purchase or sale of betting or gaming privileges, or for the purchase or sale of information that is intended to assist in book-making, pool-selling or betting;

(f) prints, provides or offers to print or provide information intended for use in connection with book-making, pool-selling or betting on any horse-race, fight, game or sport, whether or not it takes place in or outside Canada or has or has not taken place;

(g) imports or brings into Canada any information or writing that is intended or is likely to promote or be of use in gambling, book-making, pool-selling or betting on a horse-race, fight, game or sport, and where this paragraph applies it is immaterial

(i) whether the information is published before, during or after the race, fight game or sport, or

(ii) whether the race, fight, game or sport takes place in Canada or elsewhere,

but this paragraph does not apply to a newspaper, magazine or other periodical published in good faith primarily for a purpose other than the publication of such information;


(h) advertises, prints, publishes, exhibits, posts up, or otherwise gives notice of any offer, invitation or inducement to bet on, to guess or to foretell the result of a contest, or a result of or contingency relating to any contest;

(i) wilfully and knowingly sends, transmits, delivers or receives any message by radio, telegraph, telephone, mail or express that conveys any information relating to book-making, pool-selling, betting or wagering, or that is intended to assist in book-making, pool-selling, betting or wagering; or

(j) aids or assists in any manner in anything that is an offence under this section.
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Old 02-27-2007, 01:33 AM
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My guess is they are prepairing to sell to Bodog or close and are hoping Bodog gives them the right price.
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Old 02-27-2007, 02:35 AM
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It's always been illegal to bet on sports over the internet in Canada.

Canadian Criminal Code:

Gaming and Betting


Keeping gaming or betting house
201. (1) Every one who keeps a common gaming house or common betting house is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

Person found in or owner permitting use

(i) wilfully and knowingly sends, transmits, delivers or receives any message by radio, telegraph, telephone, mail or express that conveys any information relating to book-making, pool-selling, betting or wagering, or that is intended to assist in book-making, pool-selling, betting or wagering; or

(j) aids or assists in any manner in anything that is an offence under this section.
Bodog's customer service center is in a lot of trouble, because they are in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada....and they provide all sorts of aiding and abetting every hour on the hour.

Of coure, it seems to me I recall their ownership talking about how it was time to pull all operations out of Canada.

Pity, eh?
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Old 02-27-2007, 02:49 AM
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Bodog's customer service center is in a lot of trouble, because they are in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada....and they provide all sorts of aiding and abetting every hour on the hour.

Of coure, it seems to me I recall their ownership talking about how it was time to pull all operations out of Canada.

Pity, eh?
I doubt anyone in Canada would go after them considering they don't accept accept Canandian players.
I wasn't aware they had reps in Canada but makes sense though it is not the only place. A friend of mine is working for them and is Antigua as a support manager.
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:44 AM
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Yeah, we all know it is illegal to sports bet in Canada etc...but they run ads on our local radio to BET at Bowmans etc....all weekend!

No one cares.

I am just wondering why the pull out of VIP all of a sudden??? Everything has been smooth so far and there haven't been any hints of this in the past.

There are going to be a lot of upset people.

Also, they are still going to serve EXISTING US CUSTOMERS..but not Canadians...they will be out all together on April 1.

I think you may be on to something with the BODOG idea???
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:24 PM
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It looks like they're blaming increased chargebacks from US and Canadian players.

http://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gambling-news/sports-gambling/vip_leaves_the_us_internet_gambling_market_due_to_ chargebacks_36890.html

http://www.online-casinos.com/news/news4070.asp

With stories like this in the newspapers everyday it's only a matter of time before the Canadian government has to make a decision, one way or the other. Let's just hope we follow the Brits.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/na...e8830c&k=91486

Something for Canadian affiliates to consider:

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/175853

Behind the scenes politics you don't read about in the papers.

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/mark...13_74528_74528
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Dave is the man...nice post.

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It looks like they're blaming increased chargebacks from US and Canadian players.

http://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gambling-news/sports-gambling/vip_leaves_the_us_internet_gambling_market_due_to_ chargebacks_36890.html

http://www.online-casinos.com/news/news4070.asp

With stories like this in the newspapers everyday it's only a matter of time before the Canadian government has to make a decision, one way or the other. Let's just hope we follow the Brits.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/na...e8830c&k=91486

Something for Canadian affiliates to consider:

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/175853

Behind the scenes politics you don't read about in the papers.

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/mark...13_74528_74528
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