Outrageous Injustice

[RCNastermind]

Wow, this story made me sick. This is just another example of how fucked up our government is.


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[losercore]

Dude that makes me sick to my stomach. Who's not guilty of that when we were younger?


Very sad because now this guy is lickley to be a life long criminal labled and a sex offender. Very upsetting.

[xpertadvice4u]

Originally Posted by losercore

Dude that makes me sick to my stomach. Who's not guilty of that when we were younger?


Very sad because now this guy is lickley to be a life long criminal labled and a sex offender. Very upsetting.

So, that is *your* history also, huh? Nothing to be ashamed of. A real all-star stud.

Gang banging some stupid, drunken girl and encouraging a stupid, screwed up 15 year old to get even more screwed up - just so you can be a big "playah" stud and get your rocks off with no consideration of the consequences?

So, that's what passes for "normal" these days?

Yeah, let's get ourselves a bunch of ho's and do a Gangsta number on their asses. And, who cares if the "bitches" get knocked up and bring more fatherless kids into the world that they'll support on welfare from *your* taxes, and who will grow up to rob you and maybe rape *your* daughter and become a real "player" in the neighborhood gangs?

That's you?

Even the guy himself says he can't believe that was him on the tape now.

He was a real asset to the community, just what we need more of....arrogant, spoiled BMOC mentality jocks who learn they can get away with just about anything if they can bring the fans in. Sexually active since he was 13? Yeah, You da Man!!! And Mom can't wait for her "baby" to come home from jail?

Yeah, "Mom", just keep pretending you don't know what's going on - like when you knew they were planning something. But she was just as helpless as the drunken "victims" to stop "boys who will be boys."

And unprotected sex?

Do you have any idea how many single women are infected with some sort of STD now??? It is over 1 in 4.

I am mad at all the people who have made casual sex a life-threatening proposition now....by becoming so...casual....about it.

Did the kid deserve 10 years, nope.
Is the law an ass at times, yup.
Prosecutor a jerk? yup, just like the Duke Lacrosse Team case.

But, who's *not* guilty of that, you say?

God, I hope a lot of people manage to avoid getting boozed and drugged up and acting like pigs in "public" and contributing to the "delinquency" of already screwed up minors.

Oh, sorry, that's what "real men" do to have a good time?

Yeah, a real good time was had by all.
Some real Kodak moments, evidently.
So good that the effing idiots left the video camera there.
Yeah, some real future winners in that "crew."

[RCNastermind]

Everyone makes some mistakes when they are growing up, luckily we didn't get 10 years for those mistakes. It's pretty stupid to not expect kids to be sexually active during high school. The jails would be pretty full if they started tossing in every minor who gets a bj.

[losercore]

WOW! I was reffering to the part I read about how he got head from a girl 2 years younger than him and he is only 17.

Where ever you came up with the gang rape and all the other bullshit is beyond me.

Maybe I was reading a different story...

In otherwords you are so perfect that you never had some any sexual contact with a 15-16 year old when you were 16-17?

Well most have that I know.

I really missed something in that story I guess. This sounded like a guy hooking up with a girl and they both wanted to and the State law has something agaisnt the amount of years in their age. Now a guy who had a future is now going to be a criminal and and will cost us taxpayers even more because it's very hard for a "sex offender" to get a job so he needs wellfare, social help, prison funds and let's just hope at 17 the 10 years he spends in jail does not turn him into someone worse like a killer...


Meanwhile OJ and micheal Jackson are free as can be. Yea this is real justice.

[the27offsuit.com]

THis is the really screwed up part

"But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex. "

So he could have had sex with her but not oral and it would have only been a misdemeanor .

Clearly this is not a case of child molestation , and honestly this country is becoming worse then a communist country. For those of you who think America is free your all sadly mistaken. Every day we are losing more and more of our freedom .

[AceHigh Pino]

Some xpertadvice there in reply #3 -- solid.

[xpertadvice4u]

Originally Posted by losercore

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Where ever you came up with the gang rape and all the other bullshit is beyond me.

Maybe I was reading a different story...

Ok, look...Loser and RC, I know you guys are probably both decent guys, and sorry for personalizing things...but:

Evidently you only paid attention to the parts that offended *your* sensibilities. I used the term "gang-bang" not "gang-rape," so, yeah, maybe you do have some difficulties with reading what is written :-)

The 17 year old girl was likely not in any condition to truly consent to what was going on, and the guys took turns having their way with her in various rooms and methods. She was exploited, and the author concluded that she was consenting because of the way she used her hand to support her body rather than letting her face get mashed and pounded into the carpet???

That's a "gang-bang," Losercore...and it is nothing for guys to be proud of.

But it seems like there are lots of guys who think that is a just a swell evening of "Manlaw" entertainment.

Let's not forget that the girl pressed rape charges the next morning.
So, however consensual you think it was, she obviously had a different opinion the next day when she had full possession of her senses.

It was obviously not something she was pleased to have been a part of, once she was sober...but somehow some guys just overlook *that*, and make it seem like she is just some sort of wishy-washy female who can't make up her mind. And that nobody did anything they didn't want to.

Do you really think *her* life was enhanced by that evening of "good clean All-American fun" in that hoetel room?

God, she was *only* 17 years old, man. What a great start. But you all act like she has got nothing to complain about, or be ashamed of.

Man, if you were drunk as a skunk and somebody rolled you and you didn't do anything to defend yourself would you want them to be acquitted on the grounds that it seemed you were consenting to be mugged - because you did nothing to stop it?

Or...better still, what if one of your poker buddies buggered you while you in a drunken stupor, I guess he could say you wanted it cause you did not stop him, and you were not totally unconscious?

I love the way you and RC try to make it seem like it was only all about a guy just getting a little bit of head from a mutual participant.

You are minimizing and trivializing what happened that night....and, of course, you are right - according to the letter of the law...it is all - and only - about what happened with him and the younger girl...and she was under age, and the other charges were dropped...but that does not make him innocent...only "not guilty."

But don't make this guy out like he is some sort of martyr just because he had his member in the wrong orifice at the wrong time (like a year too early).

Originally Posted by losercore

.in otherwords you are so perfect that you never had some any sexual contact with a 15-16 year old when you were 16-17?

Again, why are you minimizing by making the rage-range include 16? The girl he got convicted for was 15....below the age of consent in most states.

Have you never heard the term "jail bait"? I guess not, in this age of "the freakier the better" sexuality.

I think teenagers are some of the most cruel and callous people on the face of the earth. I am ashamed of some of the crap I did/witnessed as a callous youth.

Evidently the kid in jail is also ashamed....didn't you read *that* in the article? So, even *he* realizes it was not just about two willing participants hooking up. Of course, he is also trying his best to get out of jail, so what do you expect him to say.

Originally Posted by losercore

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I really missed something in that story I guess. This sounded like a guy hooking up with a girl and they both wanted to

Yep. You just don't get it, man. I hope you have lots of daughters some day.

So, I suppose if a 10 year old girl wanted to "do" you, it would just be two people hooking up who wanted to, and nobody's business but your own?

What age are you going to use to draw the line? It does not matter if the Ten year old is the initiator and begs to do it...you are still exploiting and abusing that child....and you will go to jail.

Yeah, tell that to her parents: "Uh, she begged me to do it...what was I supposed to say?"

I am sorry, but if it is against the law for me to let some 15 year old do me, it damn well better be against the law for a 17 year old. Why should he get off? No pun intended.

You don't get it: it's not how old I am, or HE was, it is how old SHE was.

I know a high percentage of 15 year olds are sexually active these days, but that does not make it right. Hell, we're in Iraq right now, but that doesn't make it right.

And you know what? the only people who want to argue that it is all right are the ones who would like to get away with it. That's called self-serving bias...and it is why some people genuinely cannot see what I am making a fuss about.

It is the same reason it is so hard to send drunk-driver killers to jail for a long, long time....cause guys say "Wow, that could have been me...I have driven drunk lots of times, man. I don't wanna send the guy down the river."

Just cause everybody cheats on their taxes - that doesn't make it *right*, man.

I agree with you 100% that prison for 10 years is not going to rehabilitate this guy...and it is just going to make it more likely for him to help suck the life out of our society when he gets out.

Yeah, it is a raw deal....but please stop minimizing and normalizing what was going on...it was a "sick" scene, and should not have happened.

Guys do this group stuff to women way too often around the world...and evidently it is seen as very cool to videotape it. Hey, if R. Kelly can get away with doing it with a 15 year old, why not you and me?

Such men rarely see women as something more than just an ejaculation receptacle - or eye candy.

Cause that's all the guy in jail saw them as.

I just would not do that to a 17 year old girl whom I thought had a life that counted for something in front of her, and videotape it so anybody who wanted to could see her in her degraded state, and it could follow her for the rest of her life (suppose she became a teacher and the tape showed up on YouTubes?)

Would he have brought that girl home to meet his saintly Momma the next day?

Case closed as to whether it was a relationship between equals.

And, if it was not, then it was not truly consensual.

[losercore]

Yep. You just don't get it, man. I hope you have lots of daughters some day.

I've got 2..

9 out of 10 times I hear a story about something like this I'm on your side. This one was not the case.

Why? Well first of all you are speculating that she did not consent. She said after the fact that she does not think he should be punished.

What I am reffering to here is not what was going on, but what he got for doing something that happens every single day in this Country. Is it right? Not really but that's how it is.

When I was 17 yes I hooked up with girls that were 15. Think about it. 17 makes you a Junior in HighSchool while 15 makes you frshman or maybe sophmore. This is not some crazy gang rape or molestation in any sense.

I'm not proud of the guy I think what he got was wrong and here is my point.

Scenario one: This guy gets head from a 15 year old. no one finds out, he goes to college and at worst never makes the NFL but at least has a degree in something and maybe got away from his homies for four years and now lives a better life.

Next scenario: He gets head from a 15 year old, get's caught, spends 10 years of his life in jail for somethat otherwise had not commited a crime. His entire 20's are spent in jail. He now gets out, has no education, can't get a job because he is labled a s a sex offender, has to hold up liqquor stores, rob people, join a gang and maybe someday this guy kills someone.

See my point is not saying he didnt do any thing wrong.

But what scenario is better for society? Yes #1

[losercore]

So, I suppose if a 10 year old girl wanted to "do" you, it would just be two people hooking up who wanted to, and nobody's business but your own?

Your just making stuff up now so It's pointless to even entertain your point.

This could be the difference between one grade level in high school. No 15 years olds should not be doing this but they are every single day. That is a fact.

We should do more about stopping it than putting a guy in jail for 10 years because of something that really is not a crime. If he is a Junior and she is a sophmore there is nothing wrong with that age difference.

2 year age difference is nothing. No 15 year old girls should not being doing this. But they do.

To blame the guy and yell gang rape and what ever else is wrong. I am going by just the story.

You are making up stuff that may never have happened.