17000$ left short with bloody Party Gaming ltd.

[Jeremy]

I don't fuc***ing care about players values

Fair enough. Dione reads these forums so I am sure she will be happy to hear that. Good luck getting your money.

[JohnH]

I care about player values. This is a great thread. It is a learning experience for the newer guys.

[BonusMoney]

Originally Posted by JohnH

Directly from partypartners terms...

4.5 Holdover for Fraud Traffic. In the event that, in our sole discretion, we suspect any Fraud Traffic, then we may delay payment of the Affiliate Accruals to you for up to one hundred and eighty (180) days while we investigate and verify the relevant transactions. We are not obligated to pay Affiliate Accruals in respect of Real Money Players who, in our sole discretion, are not verifiably who they claim to be or are otherwise involved with Fraud Traffic. In the event that we determine any activity to constitute Fraud Traffic, or to otherwise be in contravention of this Agreement, then in our sole discretion we may: (i) pay the Affiliate Accruals in full, (ii) recalculate them in light of such suspected Fraud Traffic and/or (iii) forfeit your future Affiliate Accruals in respect of Fraud Traffic (as appropriate).

Did you ever read that?

Yes I did.
The problem is in principles. As you can see above I send them a list of players to check. They replied me that players are valid , that they deposit and became RMPs. After while I send those players 10€ for signup. Everything is OK until the end of the October, when my account becomes locked and funds deducted.
Why the hell they confirmed me that those players are real ?

[JohnH]

they probably looked at the player values. If all of your players played a certain number of hands and then cashed out, it high highly unlikely they will return. It is fraud traffic aka the poker room loses money. It happens all the time with people using your type of promotion.

[BonusMoney]

Originally Posted by JohnH

they probably looked at the player values. If all of your players played a certain number of hands and then cashed out, it high highly unlikely they will return. It is fraud traffic aka the poker room loses money. It happens all the time with people using your type of promotion.

You work for them ?

[BonusMoney]

Originally Posted by Jeremy

Fair enough. Dione reads these forums so I am sure she will be happy to hear that. Good luck getting your money.

OK then lets sort things in opposite way.

Lets say if some of your "value" players, generate 10.000$ income for PP.
How much money do you get for bringing that "value" player ?

[haynesey]

Originally Posted by BonusMoney

OK then lets sort things in opposite way.

Lets say if some of your "value" players, generate 10.000$ income for PP.
How much money do you get for bringing that "value" player ?

The standard CPA, thats the risk you take working with cpa offers.

[PPP]

Originally Posted by BonusMoney

I don't fuc***ing care about players values

It does sound like you are brand new as an affiliate and you have to learn how things work.

Your view seems to be you should be paid for fraud players, and chargeback players, and duplicate account players. Each of those is nonsense. If you sent 100 people, and 98 were one of the above types, you should be paid for two players, and you should expect and want to be paid only for two players.

Start caring about player values, and read each company's terms and conditions, and this is a good business to be in.

[JohnH]

No I don't work for them. I have just seen this happen before. I am not saying it is wrong or anything. How you choose to run your business is none of my business.

I personally have not tried that business model because I have seen too many affiliates have their commissions reduced due to low player values. In a sense you are right... you sent the players. But from a business stand how can a poker room pay affiliates for players they know will never return? They would lose money.

...and this is why they have that in their terms. To protect themselves, as a business, from losing money due to players and affiliates trying to game the system.

[BonusMoney]

OK I got all answers except mos important one :

Originally Posted by BonusMoney

The problem is in principles. As you can see above I send them a list of players to check. They replied me that players are valid , that they deposit and became RMPs. After while I send those players 10€ for signup. Everything is OK until the end of the October, when my account becomes locked and funds deducted.
Why the hell they confirmed me that those players are real ?