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Old 09-26-2007, 05:56 PM
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I thought PAW already had that..



Yeah, but don't tell Holis about it - we don't trust him
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After moaning about this over the AP issue, I've now read other members' views and now I'm not so sure. Things like that don't happen very often and it could be divisive amongst members and also it could give a false sense of security to post things that could easily be leaked by someone else with their own agenda.

Imagine how many fights we could have about who was allowed in and who wasn't . I can think of at least one member who would be blocked by some members although others enjoy their contributions.

As for the fight that broke out today - what if one was a 'privileged' member and one wasn't - it would hardly be fair on the side that wasn't given access that they were slandered with no way of seeing what was written or retaliate.

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One reason PAW works far better than the two similar forums is there isn't a cool kids, us/them distinction. Novices can contribute as peers. Experienced visitors can drop in for threads about their specific sites/issues/cardrooms.
PPP nailed it here I think.

On the fence for now.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:14 PM
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I would post re my situation cause i consider some of you friends.

At least i got you fish to post more than link swaps and review my site

Taking a lesson from jeremy, controversy (as well as sex) sells.

I do suggest if yall dont want to add this forum that there needs to be an admin only section for us mods and admins.
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I do suggest if yall dont want to add this forum that there needs to be an admin only section for us mods and admins.
Second that. For PAW purposes.
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I have no opinion either way.

But if so, we should move the Digg exchange stuff there and maybe even expand that some more too.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:22 AM
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An admin area is totally different.

Imagine if there was a private forum, and either of the two contentious threads posted today were started there, WITHOUT the opposite person having the ability to reply, let alone evebn KNOW the thread was there.

It would be extremely irresponsible to allow that to happen. here we have two threads where both sides share some fault -- though we can disagree which people in the threads are more responsible.

Having a private slander thread about AP would be more of the same. Likewise slander threads about AMs.

In large part private forums are what doom the two similar forums to bitchfest rather than (relatively) open and civil commentary here.

Then to repeat, those of you who were novices when you first came to PAW should resist this with every fiber in your body, unless you think "I got mine, so screw the next novice to come along."
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:18 AM
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those of you who were novices when you first came to PAW should resist this with every fiber in your body, unless you think "I got mine, so screw the next novice to come along."
You're a smart guy PPP, totally agree with that.

I'm personally against the idea. First, if this forum were to happen, the AM's couldn't be allowed access. If part of the concept is to be able to have private discussions trashing affiliate programs or poker rooms without the AM's knowing it, then allowing AM's in the forum would defeat the purpose.

Also, I think it's best that the AM's and everyone else here get to discuss the gritty issues like the AP thread. People have all sorts of backgrounds and experiences that are helpful in different ways. Just because someone is new to poker affiliating (or this forum) doesn't mean they don't have valuable insight.

I think it's best to have threads such as the AP thread read by everyone, including all of the AM's. The benefit is that the AM's know they will be publicly exposed for the downfalls of their programs and called out on them. Why in the world would we want to take this super-ultra valuable benefit and throw it down the toilet?

Lastly, the PAW forum is perfect the way it is. I honestly can't thank everyone enough for all of the insight and great idea's I've learned here. I would hate to think I was contributing to taking any part of that value away from anyone else. The problems this forum has to deal with are so minimal that in my mind this topic doesn't make any sense.

When I think of the 'clicks' this forum would create, it makes me think about high school again.

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Was going to quote something with what you said PPP however it pretty much would be the whole thing.
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I think it would be a good idea. The only worry IMO is that some people wouldn't feel as much part of the community if they are just starting and joining here at PAW, but then again this can be avoided by hiding the forum and not discussing it in the main forums.

I think the forum should be made as a trial and see how it works out. After all, just because you make the forum, it does not have to stay there. If it turns out to be useless then fair enough, but there is no harm in giving it a go just to see how useful it turns out to be.
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The consensus has spoken. We will not be opening a private forum at PAW. Maybe a moderator forum so that all the mods can be on the same page with a few things, but that will be all.

After hearing all the points brought up about what a private area would do at PAW, I think it would be a bad idea. I don't like the idea of people being favored or feeling inferior. We are all poker affiliates, and regardless of how much money you make or how long you have been in the business, your contributions at PAW are equal.

Thanks for all the input on this topic. I've always believed the members at PAW should decide how the community should be ran versus some admin or forum dictator. This and removing the spam forum are two great examples of how the overall community has shaped PAW to be what it it today.
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That should be your avatar Jeremy!
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