bad player value-what to do ???

[chrisgo88]

hi

i want to ask you what i can do if i only have poker players with bad value -is there anything i could do ?

isn`t it the job of the pokerroom to do something that the new players stay there and the room has to do something for this ?

i think there are many new players who sign up and test a room or want to cash a bonus and maybe look for some fishes or try to get some money out of speciall new depositors freerolls.

for example cd-poker is sending the players emails and offer them 5 token for qualifications to big tournaments 35k 40k 75k 350k and 1.000.000 if they make another deposit of min 50$ and i think most of the players will do this.

i think this is the right way to keep the players playing at the room !

what do you think about this ?

chris

[bg]

Most major rooms will help you out with the conversion or retention tactics if you have enough business over to them.

Can you define the "bad value"?


BG

[chrisgo88]

Originally Posted by bg

Most major rooms will help you out with the conversion or retention tactics if you have enough business over to them.

Can you define the "bad value"?


BG

i can`t define the value because its on cpa and i have no stats for my players

before noblepoker pays cpa the players have to deposit an generate 30 $ rake

i think that they have to pay me and it doesn`t matter if the players stay there and deposit again or not if they have fullfilled the requirements

[Prenut]

Interesting discussion brewing here, I have no idea where this is headed.

[corpfan1]

I think rooms should get rid of CPA if they can't honour their Terms.

Or...they should really change their terms.

They use their terms to their advantage when it supports their decisions...but go against them when it doesn't.

It is basically a one-way contract - the affiliate has no real rights in it.

[Prenut]

Most of the CPA terms are quite fair and work to the advantage of good affiliates. Common sense should always prevail in these scenarios, and it usually does.

The larger affiliates would be none to pleased if a cardroom changed its terms to read something like "Player must accumulate rake that is equal to or greater than the amount of CPA being paid". This is obviously because there is a give and take here. There will be some players that have rake less than the CPA amount but greater than the requirements and there will be others that far exceed them, and affiliates expect to get paid for both of these groups. They should and do get paid for both groups so long as their overall player values remain reasonable. If an affiliate continually sends trash players who barely meet CPA requirements, then obviously they should not get paid.

Being an affiliate partner is exactly that, being a partner. It does not mean trying to take advantage of certain terms and conditions in an agreement, as that is not what good partners do.

[kaus]

This is why I think all new affiliate should be put on a probationary period of 6 months. Most give up well before than and those who tough it out and show that they are willing to work with the room not against them can than discuss a CPA or any other type of plan based on their progress.

It would really get rid of all of the "get rich over night" affiliates and than maybe the rooms would not have as many CPA fraud issues and could offer better plans to the affiliate who do produce players and bust their ass

[corpfan1]

That is a good idea Kaus.


First 6 months on MGR...then a choice between MGR/Hybrid/CPA.

Sounds like a good system...thus eliminating all CPA problems...

BUT....

The whole point is COMPETITION...and most new poker rooms will offer high CPAs to recruit no affiliates.

[PPP]

You shouldn't build an affiliate business model around rogue or unproductive affiliates. (Bad and unproductive are different, but they both don't deliver profitable players.)

The majority of affiliates who deliver more than ten players in their lifetime have zero problems with CPA. Forcing new affiliates to take MGR just means a cardroom will lose productive affiliates while getting a bunch of lame ones who will never work out on the long run.

[corpfan1]

Just curious, how does the cardroom suffer from MGR only?