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[kaus]

Ok Someone has told me that my code is messed up mainly to do with to much code, CSS among other things. So I am awaiting a reply back from someone over at seo who can share a little light on this. I am curious as to what it would cost me to fix this and how could I have gone so wrong when I used a WYSIWYG? You can either let me know here or PM if you would rather that. Site link is in my sig.

Thank you

Cheryle

[kaus]

I have had some people over at seo take a peek for me and said that there is a huge amount of bloating. Is this norm with WYSIWYG. The reason I am asking is I am using a trial version (still have 30 days to go) but I was heading out tomorrow to go buy it / or one similar.

I feel so sick to my stomach with this, 1 step forward 2 steps back, but I guess I can't really complain a whole lot seeing as I am trying to do something I don't know how to do

[ArthurD]

WYSIWYG = the worst possible code! Whenever an application is creating your code for you it's going to get bloated, no matter what. The application being a trial version or not doesn't matter - it creates the same code regardless.

In general WYSIWYG is BAD *if* you're trying to be very good with your CSS / SEO / and standards compliance. It's great for newbies, and it's even great for experts - but with that said, you *MUST* go in and edit the code to be minimal.

I could assist you with this professionally, but I think you're trying to learn it yourself. Either way, feel free to ask if you have any questions, I'll do my best to assist. :-)

[Mitchell]

Hey Kaus,

CSS isn't really all that tough to pick up.

I'd suggest getting a copy of Photoshop or even 1st page (do a Google search - it's free, and don't confuse it with Frontpage).

You usually learn incredibly fast with programs like that - well, i did anyway

[losercore]

Kaus's problem is that there is a CSS but all the code styles are on the pages also. it makes it too messy. The #2 most found word on main page is an HTML tag.

She needs someone to clean up the pages and make sure everything is pointing to the css and not the style on each page. It's not a hard job, in fact i think maybe even Alance could do something for you. Might be worth a shot.

[kaus]

I think I understand what you mean losercore. I have the CSS it's just I didnt use it right? I should have been using the CSS sheets instead of manually entering the styles myself which in turn duplicated them or I am running two different styles for the same thing. Am I right?

Also when I went over to sitepoint and seo chat and asked opinons, I recieved feedback on the prgram I am using and was told that it's not the best way of learning how to do this. That Frontpage and those like it can really bloat the code. They pointed me to some great reading material and also some on how to strip the code.
I have created a couple of testing pages to work on. Those over at seo pointed out some more issues that need to be fixed....a learning curve I guess

[Jeremy]

You could probably get someone at rentacoder to fix the bloated CSS code very cheap.

[geoffvro]

Yeah, it's a little bloated... a lot of breaks and spans when table css can be utilized. You also have multiple html, head, and doctype declarations

[losercore]

Originally Posted by kaus

I think I understand what you mean losercore. I have the CSS it's just I didnt use it right? I should have been using the CSS sheets instead of manually entering the styles myself which in turn duplicated them or I am running two different styles for the same thing. Am I right?

Also when I went over to sitepoint and seo chat and asked opinons, I recieved feedback on the prgram I am using and was told that it's not the best way of learning how to do this. That Frontpage and those like it can really bloat the code. They pointed me to some great reading material and also some on how to strip the code.
I have created a couple of testing pages to work on. Those over at seo pointed out some more issues that need to be fixed....a learning curve I guess

Exactly!

I'm glad they were able to send you in the right direction. You'll get it all figured out. i've had to do this in the past when i was using a bought template form a moron that had no idea how to use CSS.

That's one reason I respect Alance and his work on templates. Very clean code. It's very helpful.