Predatory Change in Terms - Ultimate Bet

[edmc]

I agree with John, this is just BS. This has nothing to do with production. Its just about cutting off affiliates MGR. The point of being on MGR is for the long term so they can earn off thier past players when things are a little slow.

If the site has no decent offers or the software becomes unreliable, is that a reason to cut an affiliates previous earnings?

Only having time for a select few affiliates is no excuse for this and that is an entirely different issue

[Graham]

Originally Posted by Dave

My point is that affiliate mangers have to concentrate their efforts on working with the consistent, past producers.

It's a lot more time consuming than most affiliates realise.

This is just my guess/opinion.

I may well be wrong but it's the only logical explanation that I can come up with for their new terms.

They want to maximize their profits as much as we do.

At the same time, why can't they just ignore / low prioritize the emails from the affiliates that are wasting their time. Drop the affiliates wasting their time that aren't bringing them anything if need be, but who knows, maybe these people will be their biggest money makers in years to come. I try to contact my affiliate managers as little as possible (ie. only if there is a major problem). Everything else should be automated on their end.

Even a smaller affiliate bringing in $50 a month (around $250 revenue for them every month) should be looked after. 100 people doing this is still $25,000. If they need more people, they could easily hire someone part-time to look after these people for a small amount.

Resources shouldn't really be a good excuse.

[Graham]

Originally Posted by PPP

Not commenting on the UB specific, but creating a barrier for entry for new affiliates is a moneymaker for the cardrooms. New affiliates are next to useless as a group. Many turn out to be fine of course, but most that sign up produce nothing at all. I would guess that most of the rest produce nothing but fraud players (and complaints).

I think this is a good idea, but once you reach your barrier you should not have to continue to meet it every month. As much as I hated Mansion's "5 Players before getting paid policy". looking back on it now, it wasnt all that bad.

[Graham]

Originally Posted by Janet

Ultimate Bet has changed its terms.



Pretty disgusting.

Quick question... where can I find this? Does this affect income access affiliates (I dont see any notices on their site) for UB?

[JohnG]

Dave, you didn't piss me off at all, just tired of typing about this, I respect your right to your opinion. As well, I agree with the recent comments above about this issue, there are much smarter ways to solve this problem, this is just a quick and money making way to do it.

[edmc]

Its the very reason Pyramid schemes got such a bad name. I just consider it unreasonable. By all means make it a min payout of $200 instead of $50 but a min player count is poor

[anyone926]

I have not seen it On incomeaccress,too.
Does anyone know it?Does it affect the Incomeaccess affiliates?

Thanks,


Regards.
anyone926

[Janet]

Originally Posted by Dave

Janet, where are you on V.I?

I'm in Victoria on the Gorge.

I'm in the Comox Valley.

[Shenaz]

Hi all,

This term in our T&C's is there for the protection of our site, but it has not been enforced on any affiliate. It also has been updated to be a year instead of 90 days as well. We felt that the 90 days time limit was not fair as well.

Shenaz Shamji
Key Accounts Manager
Ultimate Bet and Absolute Poker

[CoolDog]

Originally Posted by Shenaz

It also has been updated to be a year instead of 90 days as well. We felt that the 90 days time limit was not fair as well.

Well, I guess that takes care of that! LOL

One year seems fair.

CoolDog