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Old 02-19-2007, 08:52 AM
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This is the stats for a new depositor


Player Rake $2.54
Player Juice $4.05
Player Bonus 0
Player Added 0
Used Points 0
Player Fees $31.25
Fraud 0
Revenue - $24.66

So if this is how much it costs me to send a site 1 player, i am a bit worried about sending them say, 100 players of the same quality.

I really cannot afford to be sending them a cheque for $2466 dollars every month for sending them 100 new depositors
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:56 AM
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hehehehe its bad when affiliates end up paying the poker room for sending them players


anyhow your players will end up making more rake/juice then "player fees"

It just means instead of earning 20%, your really earning around 13% ( thats what it works out for me anyways...... although not for long as i have now switched to PAW's FullTilt CPA )
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:03 AM
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as i am still new, how does negative revenue come? i mean what do the player fees consist of? thanks for your help
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:19 AM
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I promote full tilt. But They charge the highest players fees, and pay the lowest %. However I find them rather easy to convert, so I still promote them.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:28 PM
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This is the stats for a new depositor


Player Rake $2.54
Player Juice $4.05
Player Bonus 0
Player Added 0
Used Points 0
Player Fees $31.25
Fraud 0
Revenue - $24.66

I really cannot afford to be sending them a cheque for $2466 dollars every month for sending them 100 new depositors
Yes, that sounds scary.
For the ignorant people like myself, could you clarify what "rake" "juice" and "Fees" refer to?

"Rake" is the actual contributions to rake fees the player made? as opposed to some arithmetic division of rake (i.e. 1/6th of rake per hand at a 6 player table)?

"Juice"??????

"Fees": processing fees for deposits?

Aren't you also on the hook for Bonuses paid out?

I gather these are only an issue when you do MGR as opposed to CPA?

Thanx.
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Rake = Cash Game Revenue.

Juice = Tournament Revenue.

Fees = Processing fees for deposits.

Bonuses are taken off too.

Although it's not that he is actually paying Full Tilt money or anything.
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[quote=DealerDan]Rake = Cash Game Revenue.

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Thanks, but I am still not clear how that is calculated?

"Rake" is the actual contributions to rake fees the player made? as opposed to some arithmetic division of rake (i.e. 1/6th of rake per hand at a 6 player table)?
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Rake = Cash Game Revenue.

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Thanks, but I am still not clear how that is calculated?

"Rake" is the actual contributions to rake fees the player made? as opposed to some arithmetic division of rake (i.e. 1/6th of rake per hand at a 6 player table)?
Full Tilt uses the "dealt" method, not contributed. Or to simply:

$5 rake taken. 5 players were dealt cards. Regardless of who contributed what to the pot, $1 for each player would be added to their rake/cash game revenue.
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Old 02-20-2007, 09:15 AM
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Guys, I think you should see less fees now since Neteller is gone. IIRC the majority of the FT fees were from neteller instacash where the sites got charged a fortune (I believe it could have been a percentage nearing double figures), so since that has gone I think fees are less on both ends.
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:20 AM
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Guys, I think you should see less fees now since Neteller is gone. IIRC the majority of the FT fees were from neteller instacash where the sites got charged a fortune (I believe it could have been a percentage nearing double figures), so since that has gone I think fees are less on both ends.
I hope you're right Nickor, but I'm not holding my breath considering what Absolute Poker has done regarding increasing player deposit fees.
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