Paradise refused to pay my CPA players

[dongying]

I have brought 3 CPA player to Paradise on October, but paradise refused to pay me and told me that my players value are low and i am moved to revenue share. i thought that they can only do this for my future players, they should pay me for my October players.

Any one experience this same problem with Paradise?

[corpfan1]

Now that Stephen is gone...it is Toilet Poker.

[Jeremy]

No they do not have to pay you on those 3. Although it would be nice if they did, what if those 3 were actually 300. The fundamental problem with CPA for card rooms is that typically the CPA is much higher than the rake generated in the minimum hand requirement.

Because of this the amount of CPA fraud that takes place by rogue affiliates is very high. For example I can get $300 CPA's at a few rooms. I suppose I could make (5) $50 transfers into my friends neteller accounts and then tell them to follow my link and play at least 250 raked hands at the micro-limits so they don't go broke. Then 30 days later POW, I just made $1500 in CPA from the poker site, where these players probably raked less than $100 collectively.

I think any aff. manager will tell you this happens all the time from affiliates on CPA. Now I'm not saying that is what you did dongying, but if all 3 of your players barely generated any rake or only played the minimum hand requirement and then cashed out, it probably threw up some red flags.

Hope that helps

[dongying]

this not the case. i brought new players to the door, i am done my work. and i should get paid as long as my players meet the cpa requirment. it is not my job to keep them playing.

i am not sure if there is an affiliate who will transfer their own money to friend in order to get CPA, that is even too risk.that is the first time that heard.

so i will remove paradise banner from my site.

[corpfan1]

Again, this brings up the issue of a "CLEAR CUT CONTRACT" in terms of requirements, etc...

I am not sure what Paradise's terms are...I thought they were 250 raked hands at 50c/$1 or above.

Did they meet those terms?

I know when Stephen was around he allowed CPA when those requirements were not met so long as they played like 500+ hands at lower limits.

Talk to your AM.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by dongying

this not the case. i brought new players to the door, i am done my work. and i should get paid as long as my players meet the cpa requirment. it is not my job to keep them playing.

i am not sure if there is an affiliate who will transfer their own money to friend in order to get CPA, that is even too risk.that is the first time that heard.

so i will remove paradise banner from my site.

While it is always a difficult decision to remove CPA from an affiliate, sometimes this decision is and will continue to be taken if the company believes that the Players are not necessarily at the poker site for good. While it is never your responsibility to "keep them playing", however, if they play until the CPA requirements are met and leave, the company would have no hesitation in removing the CPA.

Over my time at Paradise I was fortunate not to remove too many CPA commissions. Unfortunately, it happens - and provided they are genuine, long term you will make your money Dongying.

Stephen

[Jeremy]

I concur with Stephen 100% on this. If we are talking about only 3 players and if they are genuine players you sent to Paradise, you will make a boat load more in mgr anyways.

I thought about going CPA with Paradise almost a year ago, and looking at my blackjack revenue I am verry happy I didn't. I have a few guys literally have made me thousands in the last year.