Poker Ad Network

[HT0]

Hi.

I received an email from the poker ad network which said they wanted one of my sites to join the network.

Do any of you have any experience with this network? Is it worth it?
Do they pay on time?

Thanks..

[John D]

Yes they pay on time.

I had a LOT of problems with them not having enough ads to fill my space so I practically dropped them out, just using them as a filler now.

[Nick0r]

They've spammed me too.

As someone here (I think) once said - why would you want CPC or CPM ads on your site when you can make a hell of a lot more promoting affiliate programs directly.

[John D]

A lot of places do it... www.pokerforums.org is a large(ish) site that does it.

I do it, I do it on all my sites because I think its a lot easier to manage.

I had some big hosting site years ago when hosting affiliating was a major business but I didn't affiliate then either.

[Nick0r]

Woah - hold on, you're getting confused. Selling private advertising at the right price is a GREAT idea. Using CPM or CPC networks is NOT a good idea what-so-ever.

[John D]

Why?

If you have a lot of traffic you normally can't sell it all privately unless you are doing monthly deals instead of CPM/CPC.

I think if there was a network that has a high % rate for poker they could do very well, just like the normal ad networks, casale for example.

I can't remember what the rate is for PAN but they are a good filler if you can't get everything sold privately.

[Nick0r]

The point is, private advertising you decide the pricing, you workout how much that banner would make you as an affilliate, add a bit and sell it. An ad network decides the income for you, and they are making money off of your misfortune - think about it, all these people buyins adverts and paying you CPC - they MUST be earning a profit for it to continue to run.

Generally on websites adsense is used for content sites that have no directly related products to sell, or products that aren't available online. Anyone who runs a website on a subject that does have an affiliate related program will tell you there is a lot more money selling products and earning a commission rather than being payed per visit and letting the advertiser earn money instead of you.

[John D]

Yeah I know but that's why they are used as a filler

I.e. only used to fill extra space that you haven't sold yet yourself.

This is really good for sites that get tens of thousands of uniques per day, it takes a lot of work trying to sell private ad space but if you have a network that can take advantage of any extra space you have.

I use PAN as a filler so its nothing I rely on for a lot of money, its just giving me extra that I would have missed out on otherwise

[PPP]

It takes very little work to sell ad space in the poker market.

Running a poker ad network is setting fire to money. The only possible reason to do it would be to put it on a large network of abandoned sites to scrap up miscellenaous pennies.

[John D]

That's exactly what I'm doing

I run them if I have an empty space in my rotation (Normally only do for a few days max) and in my vbulletin archive.

They are doing really bad though, I don't know why they are looking for more publishers because they have a really low fill rate.