why cant more affiliate programs be like Carbon Poker?

addaminsane · #1 08-22-2007, 01:11 AM

I'm pretty new to the poker affiliate industry and havn't had a whole lot of good experiences with Affiliate managers. Chipleader is absolutely worthless in my mind. Fulltilt Poker will at least repond to you, but nothing spectacular. Bodog just blows in my opinion. Pokerstars, don't really know cuz i use PAW for them. However, Carbon Poker is my fav so far. Whats great is you hardly need an affiliate manager, or at least alot of things are already available to you. And carbon poker is converting like crazy. don't get a whole lot of traffic yet, had about 300 visitors per day the past two days, before that averaging 150 according to my stats. Anyways...Hardly any signups or none through the big dogs on my site. But Carbon Poker is converting really well. Might be the cool landing page they send players to. And they have basically all the tools you could want for tracking daily play. My question is, Why can't more affiliate programs be like this. Is it because the other ones are pretty established and don't really give a shat? Or what? Some programs are unappreciative, and unacceptable, i almost want to start a strike against them. Even Though Absolute Poker is my favorite place to actually play poker, I just want to do terrible things to them cuz of how they've been treating affiliates of late.

I wasn't a poker affiliate before the UIEGA so i don't have any clue how drastically it has changed alot of things. Under the UIEGA I almost want to sell my site and stick to information sites and adsense.

kaus · #2 08-22-2007, 09:16 AM

Carbon AM's are great especially Ellen. She is one of the best to give you attention when it is needed, whether you are sending massive players or not. She is willing to work with you till you do.

Hopefully you can make your conversions into RMP's that stick....best of luck to you!

Notspot · #3 08-22-2007, 09:26 AM

If I had to say which affiliate program is the best, it would defo be PDC. Real-time stats are a real plus point - also 40% mgr and very quick response to any queries goes down very nicely. They deserve to be much bigger than they are - great program and software.

I'm dropping a couple of rooms this week and replacing them with some new rooms - not because I don't like the actual site or game play, but because their stats stink. 2 rooms in particular I KNOW are massaging the figures. Why should I work so hard to promote a site and get ripped off in return?

bahh · #4 08-22-2007, 09:27 AM

Have not promoted Carbon before but now I'll probably give them a try..

edmc · #5 08-22-2007, 10:06 AM

Interesting - Live stats are simple for a poker site to have - they calculate their player base rake to the penny - live time. very rarely a mistake is made. Some sites even removed live stats from their features. I can understand your frustration. Other than that, my mate was round last night. He left the kitchen window open. I woke up shivering this morning, thought I had the flu.

I dont think there is much point complaining about chipleader, it goes on deaf ears

SunPoker.com · #6 08-22-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by edmc

Interesting - Live stats are simple for a poker site to have - they calculate their player base rake to the penny - live time.

not all the time. In the case of Sunpoker.com, they receive their poker files from the software provider, Cryptologic, the day after for previous day's activity. Then we must update that data on our affiliate platform. I wish it was real time, believe me.

Mark

edmc · #7 08-22-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SunPoker.com

not all the time. In the case of Sunpoker.com, they receive their poker files from the software provider, Cryptologic, the day after for previous day's activity. Then we must update that data on our affiliate platform. I wish it was real time, believe me.

Mark

Yes, I can understand that, much like the PAW platform. Now we go back to a setup like ongame network. Hollywood poker started with live stats but since removed. Now it begs the question, when the software is in place initially.

Live stats help affiliates, not only for motivation but for banner placement. Sites chose to remove those options plus they have access to the pages that get hits which they will not disclose.

yeah, it must be a problem for those who bought a skin

kaus · #8 08-22-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Notspot

If I had to say which affiliate program is the best, it would defo be PDC. Real-time stats are a real plus point - also 40% mgr and very quick response to any queries goes down very nicely. They deserve to be much bigger than they are - great program and software.

They do and I think if they were to make some changes with their line up it would be an amzing site to play on. For me it didn't work . Stats suck and anyone who actually did switch from PMP to an RMP never went back after the first deposit. There were a few who made some extra ones but they ended up dropping to.

You can only do so much before its time wasted. Real time stats are great but when there is nothing to look at....what good are they for!

addaminsane · #9 08-22-2007, 04:10 PM

I don't quite understand "What good are they for" If i could choose between not having them and having them, I want to have them. What is the problem. Why do sites who've had them in the past remove them? Is it a big strain on their server?

kaus · #10 08-22-2007, 04:13 PM

I think you misunderstood my comment. If the stats suck all the way around with the room than what is the point of having real time stats....so you can see how bad they are at any given time of the day.....lol

To be honest I could care less about having them in real time or not. I only check my rooms once a week now....I find you can easily lose way to much time looking at your stats