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Originally Posted by PPP 
You can't fight the math. Try to think about it logically. Why would people who visit pokernews first be more likely to sign up at your site than those who visit your site first and pokernews second? The fact of the matter is the reverse should be true, since bigger affiliates often get somewhat better deals for players.
It is simple odds and ratios on the one hand, but then it is even BETTER for smaller affiliates who get players first. Pokernews (and Pokerlistings, etc) converts players for small affiliates every day. The reality is once players get introduced to the poker world, they generally want more, which means they are FAR FAR more likely to go from a smaller site to find a bigger site second than they are to find a smaller site AFTER they find a bigger site first.
The bigger sites convert players for smaller sites at a higher ratio than the other way around. Frankly the astonishing thing about threads like these is that most smaller affiliates don't get this part of the business. Cookies benefit smaller sites at the expense of bigger sites. This phenomenon is not awful enough for it to matter so much to bigger sites, but the reality is once players get hooked on poker at some forum (or whatever) they will gravitate to bigger forums like 2+2 in a higher percentage than someone who finds 2+2 first. It is not natural to say "hey, I found this big forum with lots of participants, and that makes me want to go to a smaller forum with less participants."
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Well I can appreciate your concept here, but I am not getting into the psychological aspect of knowing what my visitors are thinking when they decide to navigate to another site and not mine. I am just talking about sheer numbers PPP, if poker news gets 10K visitors a day and I get 300, then the odds of one of my visitors having been to poker news already is much greater than the odds of their visitors having already been to my site. Its just a numbers game. But this really doesn't make a shit, my whole deal is if they navigate away from my site then I obviously didn't give them what they wanted, so I don't deserve to make any money on them. Your saying I do even if they go to poker news and decide to download and deposit through one of their links, while having already visited the poker room through my link. That is in no way a fair and just structure to do cookies. I say this assuming the programs could distinguish between players that have already downloaded the software and players that have just surfed the websites.
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Originally Posted by PPP
Last referer would be just a plain dumb way to run an affiliate business.
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Again I am not talking about players that already downloaded the software ppp. I am just talking about simple surfers that visit my site and have never downloaded the poker room. Saying that giving credit to the last affiliate that actually converted them is dumb is probably one of the dumbest remarks I have read yet on this forum, no offense. Taking out of the equation the players that already have an account or have previously downloaded the software, then there is absolutely no reason in the world to give the commission to another affiliate that didn't make the player convert while I did. If they found what they needed on poker news they wouldn't be browsing my site in the first place.
I just don't understand your logic at all. If we took a consensus on the way affiliates wanted cookies done, you would no doubt be in the minority. Theres no logical explanation to doing it this way, and what I don't understand is you keep making the argument that its a wash and it benefits the smaller affiliate, and if this were genuine you would not be so opposed to doing it this way. It doesn't make sense, what are the negatives in doing cookies the way so that the affiliate that actually gets them to download the software and deposit actually gets paid his/her efforts. Your right, what a dumb idea. Your argument is like paying the secretary at Atlanta Ford the commission on a sale just because she picked up the phone and talked to the prospect first, but the salesmen actually sold them on the car. Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.