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Old 09-27-2007, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDonk View Post
"Construction. You build it wrong, you fix it or get paid nothing."

You stated it yourself: the "you fix it" part. Obviously again this shows PSO is wrong. The translator offered to fix errors.

Not true. PSO told them about the translation problems. Why is it too big of a job for the translator to check over 100,000 words, but not too big of job for PSO? Again, PSO hired a translation service, not the other way around. The translator did not hire PSO to proofread the work, that was their job.

"I can go on and on."

You proved my point with the first one.

Not so, see above

"Why is it PSO's fault that the translator is so stupid as to do all this work up front with no pre-payment? If the translator doesn't ask for it, that's his problem not PSO's."

It's not. How is it the translator's fault that PSO won't send material to be corrected?

It's not PSO's job to point out every little mistake. It is however the translators job to find the problems when they proofread. When the translator was told the work was "crap" that should've clued them in to the fact that the errors were many. Yeah, for the real world PSO should've done more, but that still doesn't make it their job. $100,000 + makes it the translators job.

"It's also not PSO's responsibility to point out every imperfection, which in a translation of this size could potentially be enormous. If PSO says 'the Russian translations are screwed up, fix it', then that should be enough."

That's silly. "Hey this 100,000 word document is screwed up, fix it." C'mon, that's a million miles past unreasonable.

See above

"It's the translators job to translate, not PSO's. PSO hired the translator... to translate!"

He did.

According to PSO, poorly. I haven't read the work, so I'm just basing this comment on what PSO has stated.

""Quality" in this case means that someone properly educated in the language, someone who understands proper sentence structure and grammar, is the translator. Then, that person must take the time to execute the translation properly. If these things cannot be accomplished by the translator who's agreed to the terms, he's the one at fault for that."

The quality level is not objective, but again it is important to point out it is not at all relevant to the issue, which is that PSO did not allow corrections to be made, then charged the contractor for corrections they did themselves (with a so far mysterious way of coming up with that number).

I own a couple of businesses myself, and I've owned several in my lifetime. First, I make certain things are done right the first time. If someone misses something I don't ask the client to tell me every detail. I find what's wrong, and fix it - simple as that. Oh yeah, maybe that's why I never run into these issues.

TheDonk
"Not true. PSO told them about the translation problems. Why is it too big of a job for the translator to check over 100,000 words, but not too big of job for PSO? Again, PSO hired a translation service, not the other way around. The translator did not hire PSO to proofread the work, that was their job...." - Yes, it was our job and that's why I asked them again and again to send me the docs. But when they didnt sent any docs, whose fault is this? And on which base the deducted the amount then? Do you have any answer to that?

Why are you saying something again n again TheDonk when you know very well that I asked them for corrections so many times? Don';t you think it's so "weird" that a company tells the vendor to "fix" the things and when the vendors agrees, the company doesnt sent anything and instead deducted the money!
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