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  #45   Spam Kill
Old 06-26-2007, 05:00 PM
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It's hard to figure what you aren't getting.

Here... http://www.partypoker.com/?sometracker.com
Somebody comes along and clicks the link.
They are a fraud player without my knowledge, who get detected six months later due to a pattern of IP addreses and inter account transfers.

It isn't somehow PARTY's fault, and it isn't mine. But it is a fraud player for which ?sometracker.com does not deserve payment.

How can you not get that? This idea that affiliates aren't accountable makes no sense.

Suppose there is a site called partybenefitshere.com, that you have to be a Party player to join. Suppose I buy advertising on this site, saying "join Party and get an extra $100 on signup" (the standard deal). No suppose some folks uninstall their software and signup via that link. Now suppose I get paid. It's just nuts to think that Party should not take back any funds they gave me for that player -- regardless of whether they give the original affiliate (if one) anything.

This is a slam dunk, and you guys looking at this in a selfish, micro way need to think like bigger businesses. Everything we do has risks. Every nickel I spend may be a bad choice... especially if I choose a business model that targets more-prone-to-fraud signups.

Maybe even the most important point, this is not news to anyone honest about it. A lot of affiliates have benefitted from getting players that they deserve no payment for.

All this statute of limitations stuff is silly ("they paid me, it's mine"). Fortunately now we have at least one cardroom finally, thankfully saying affiliates can't benefit from fraud players no matter what, and no matter how long it takes to discover the fraud, intentional or unintentional.

Zero downside, hugely positive thing for genuine affiliates and the entire industry. Now we need others to follow, or for affiliates to abondon programs that don't.
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